About Valeyard or Dream Lord I am not so sure but they are in essence The Doctor , so just seeing one dark part doesn't make sense. The opening of The Impossible Planet illustrates that. The one thing that, after everything, his whole life, she had been there always (and always would be, right to the end...) and he saw his fear, loosing the TARDIS. My idea is that it was Amy dead. That's why it's so infuriating. It scared her and reminded her of her faith in The Doctor and made her reach for her faith, which the Minotaur would feed on. (I was 89 earlier.) In the Doctor Who episode 'The God Complex' , The doctor opened his room and saw something, but we didn't see what his fear was. It was one of the last things to disappear after the simulation ended. To the Doctor, it's always up to him to solve the problem at hand whether or not there's a good outcome. Jess Stewart . Eleventh Doctor; Rory Williams; Amy Pond (Doctor Who) River Song; Canton Everett Delaware III; Episode: s06e01 The Impossible Astronaut ; Extended Scene; all rights to BBC; mostly Rory's POV; Emotional Hurt/Comfort; The Doctor is not really dead; Steven Moffat is evil (not really) 11thDoctorWhump; Summary. I'm pretty sure he would develop a more realist view of the Universe, instead of placing faith in something else. 11 / 13 The TARDIS lands in a hotel where every visitor's room contains their biggest fears.. BBC One The 'do not disturb' sign was the clue. Image of Doctor Who - 6x11 - The God Complex for fans of Doctor Who 25432142 The God Complex Original Airdate: 17 Sep, 2011 [Hotel] ... [Gibbis' room] DOCTOR: Eek! Doctor Who — Series 6, The God Complex. Gallery. It's not in the Doctor's character to embrace his death when he spends all his lie fighting it on behalf of others. I think everything needed to make an accurate assumption of what's in The Doctor's room is given in the episode and doesn't require foreknowledge. It made sense, at one time, for the Doctor, maybe, to have seen his 'secret' self and say "who else?" I saw it more as a way that the room/complex was acknowledging the fact that it itself could not handle a piece of Rory Williams. 87.102.91.126talk to me 01:12, December 29, 2013 (UTC). But I dont see how it relates to the Doctor's room.Phil Stone ☎ 04:43, June 6, 2013 (UTC). Here's my working theory, which relates to the current season 8 story as I know of: What does the Doctor fear? Her father, who was a physician, was appalled at her results and berated her. He feared the idea that his actions would have a negative effect on the people around him (eg his tardis explodes and affects amy). Maybe The Doctor saw Adric surviving? The Master meets themselves, River Song goes cybernetic, the Fourth Doctor and Leela go travelling and more! Food for thought. Well, that all depends on how one sees Adric in said nightmare. And if he did it would likely undermine his reaction to the events on Trenzalore. Wibbly-Wobbly ☎ 05:27, December 27, 2013 (UTC), I imagine it was an edit. Tap to unmute. The Doctor experimentally walks through the door of the TARDIS inside the control room and instantly walks back into the control room through the door of the outer TARDIS. Rated: Fiction K+ - English - Hurt/Comfort - Rory W., 11th Doctor - Words: 620 - Reviews: 3 - Favs: 5 - Published: 9/28/2011 - Status: Complete - id: 7421314 + - Full 3/4 1/2 Expand Tighten A/N: Hihi! The Doctor learns that each hotel room contains the greatest fear of someone who has been in the hotel, and that a Minotaur-like creature (played by Spencer Wilding) is feeding off their faith. I oould tend to agree. I can't understand why there's any question about this -- the hints and clues in the scene are overwhelming. The TARDIS lands in a hotel where every visitor's room contains their deepest, darkest fears. As for your question, no I am not being ironic. The hotel in "The God Complex" seems to manifest a person's greatest fears, rather than focusing on one specific phobia, so the crack in The Doctor's room could have been accompanied by a person. To both of them, the idea of just going away & not finding out what was wrong (i.e., idea of staying out of trouble) was simply a joke. Steven Moffat may do it. They go to a room where the Doctor has set up an elaborate tree with a large gift box. So, if a room could be under water, I would say mine would have just enough room to breath and there would be great white sharks. Essentially, I believe he saw himself become like Rassilion at the end of the Time War - consumed by the hubris to which he knows he is prone.ComicBookGoddess ☎ 04:58, March 3, 2013 (UTC), I think Adric is likely, but it could be any companion who has died, or all of them, such as Jamie, Gus or Ace. Die Neuauflage der Serie hat in Großbritannien einen wahren Hype ausgelöst. This fear of growing old shows in the beginning of Season 8, though the fear of death is less obvious. Someone to make suffer. Here's my proposal. He was Amy Pond's husband. I have this picture that he saw himself, so far beyond despair, so far beyond evil, giving in and becoming all that he hates, destroying everything, on purpose, because he has come to believe it was the right thing to do. He went to the park at the same tim… Perhaps the Doctor's faith is that some day his journey will end. --2.96.17.223talk to me 08:00, May 23, 2013 (UTC). LUCY [OC]: It's funny. With William Hartnell, Patrick Troughton, Jon Pertwee, Tom Baker. The Doctor (as the Master pointed out) is the one who "makes people better". Steven Moffat may have overreached himself with the Silence they're too involved to be as scary as he'd like the audience to think they are. From The God Complex. This review contains spoilers.. 6.11 The God Complex “What’s the alternative? Rory Smith’s lungs were filling with blood. Doctor Who. in Doctor Who Community . In Doctor Who season 6, Matt Smith's Doctor, accompanied by Karen Gillan's Amy Pond and Arthur Darvill as Rory, is whisked into a simulated reality that takes the form of a hotel. DOCTOR: They should … I'm sorry, the beginning of that was poorly thought out. His hand goes through it.) 7/8 Previous Next. Someone like the War Doctor. I still think there's more to Rory not having a room. Maybe then he sees a future generation of himself, an old version of himself. I think it was in Mind of Evil, though I could be remembering wrong, that there was a similar concept where there was a machine or something which made people see their worst fears or something like that. The Eleventh Doctor faced his worst fear in "The God Complex," which was revealed to be the ever-present crack in time, but is there more to this Doctor Who mystery? The God Complex ist die 244. I'm not against the crack being part of the Doctor's fear but I think it should really be the Silence. As Amy Pond's (Karen Gillan) fiancé, Rory is initially insecure because he believes Amy secretly loves the Doctor more. Dec 1, 2018 - The Doctor and gang find a terrifying room full of Ventriloquist Dummies. One-shot. Yeah. But the faith in Rose approach depends on the maze presenting,perhaps not the greatest fear, but something calculated to demand faith as a reaction. BBC One Fears groups of girls teasing him. --Graske of the Mandragora 09:55, April 23, 2013 (UTC), We now have a new possibility: The unknown (John Hurt) incarnation, who's "not the Doctor", from The Name of the Doctor. Introducing Doctor Who Infinity, a new game from the creators of Doctor Who Legacy! He put do not disturb sign , when thinking about it no one in there knows Doctor's past , so even if they have entered the room they wouldn't have recognised who was inside except the Doctor himself. I think he saw David Tennant (himself as 10) having sex with Rose. (He steps forward and tries to touch an Angel. Share. This is a family show and website. doctor who amy pond eleventh doctor Rory Williams the doctor Mine~ The God Complex favorite scene ever Anyway, I expect it to have something to do with the Daleks and/or the Time War. Having been introduced at the start of the fifth series, Rory joins the Eleventh Doctor as a companion in the middle of Series 5. --89.241.72.95talk to me 09:53, February 1, 2013 (UTC), There's a short story called The Fear that suggests the thing the Doctor fears most is losing his mind. Over the years and countless adventures, he's come to realize that he can't save everyone in his line of work and can't keep those he cares about close to him or he may lose them. Available now for PC, Mac, iOS and Android. #Mygodcomplexroom . Stay in with Staying in the TARDIS. 5839 notes / 7 years 10 months ago. As the Doctor talks to his father Alex, Amy and Rory are transported from the lift to a life-size doll house where other members of the housing estate have arrived, to be turned into peg dolls . The 22-year-old plumber and ambulance volunteer didn't have any pre-existing health conditions, and suddenly, he was about to die. Keeping him out of trouble, apart from being virtually impossible (he's the Doctor, after all), was very much secondary & she was often as keen to get involved in trouble as he was. In the Doctor Who episode 'The God Complex' , The doctor opened his room and saw something, but we didn't see what his fear was. Image of Doctor Who - 6x11 - The God Complex for fans of Doctor Who 25439984 And I don't think there was any body of old companions , because he didn't seem disturbed at all. 60 Min noch 2 Tage. Directed by Nick Hurran. The God Complex. 94.72.235.63talk to me 17:01, February 1, 2013 (UTC), Possibly a crazy Doctor in a TARDIS standing over the bodies of companions, with the Cloister Bell tolling to indicate a major disaster was imminent, because of their deaths. Some kind of ultimate disaster -- perhaps one that was the Doctor's own fault. The Doctor, Amy and Rory become trapped in a hotel of horrors unable to escape and unable to find the TARDIS. The Complex played on existing fears, so that last bit wouldn't need to be shown explicitly. "Amy begins to feel the Minotaur changing her, and the Doctor suddenly insists that he can't save her. The only really work if you're a conspiracy nut. Staffel. The part he can never know but has to watch it.. Never knowing how it feels Remember when he sees what we now know as the crack, we hear the sound the Tardis makes when it lands (you know the BONG sound). Opalsaloony- We are the Superior Beings 09:42, February 1, 2013 (UTC), Although there's a lot of merit in the "death of companions" idea, the one thing we actually know about whatever was in that room is that the Cloister Bell was tolling. The Doctor will return in the upcoming festive season entitled Revolution of the Daleks. Is it not obvious? --89.240.250.22talk to me 03:45, February 2, 2013 (UTC). Madge is shocked by the many toys the Doctor has put in the room. that doesn't fit with a future self he had never encountered and couldn't be expect to remember. In that case, what you meant by keeping him of trouble was at least part of what I meant by healing him, though I also had in mind her effect on his feelings about himself. She made lots of us readers feel like we weren’t alone in our bookish quirks. And could it have anything to do with why Rose is supposed to be in the anniversary show?Phil Stone ☎ 15:25, June 3, 2013 (UTC), Even if the idea hadn't occurred at the time to Toby Whithouse (who wrote The God Complex) or to Moffat, there's nothing to stop Moffat deciding later on that that's what happened. It is not just himself, or his companions dying... Maybe what he saw was simply the passing of time itself? I thought it was because his fear was leaving Amy, I thought at first that Rory's room was the one with the PE teacher in, as he said in The Doctor's Wife ''You need fun, don't you? --89.240.250.172talk to me 03:38, June 4, 2013 (UTC), Sorry, I was unclear. I am fairly sure that he did say, " who else " but now with all this information maybe, he understood that the Time Lords were to be present through the crack. It was the cloister bell and a ticking clock. Let's start with the room, it's number 11, one can almost safely say this is referring to his 11 incarnation, so the other ideas about the Tenth Doctor shouldn't be considered since at that moment he is no longer him. There are several different ideas on this topic, some are far fetched and some plausible. He knew the Silence where trying to kill him over some question they thought was incredibly dangerous. Episode 11 of 13. A plan is afoot, humanity is endangered – but by what and how and, above all, when? Shopping. By "stay out of trouble" I meant steer him to act the way the Doctor would, ie no more genocide, or other things that the Doctor would (no longer) consider doing. Because we didn't see who/what was in the room, he can "retcon" it any way that suits him. Shambala108 ☎ 15:19, February 1, 2013 (UTC), Easily. DOCTOR: Amy, they're not real. Can the Doctor solve the mystery before the residents check out in grisly style? (There are Weeping Angels here.) The God Complex Original Airdate: 17 Sep, 2011 [Hotel] (A lone policewoman walks the corridors of a deserted hotel, then opens the door to room 214. Galleries. The Doctor wouldn't fear death, as that would be a well received gift. All rights go to the BBC. Or it could be someone he feels guilty about, perhaps Susan. Are you sure that's what he said? A manifestation of all the sadness that has kept him running this whole time. 24.18.188.4talk to me 04:52, January 17, 2014 (UTC). I don't remember The Doctor saying "who else" instead of "what else". Subscribe to Doctor Who for more: http://bit.ly/SubscribeToDoctorWho. Time is running out in general? Sep 18, 2014 - I have a theory that in 6x11 The God Complex, the nightmare in the Doctor's room would be his parallel self experiencing the romantic aspect of his relationship with Rose. Cookies help us deliver our Services. the crack itself but the implication behind it. Created by Sydney Newman. The 'do not disturb' sign was the clue. Perhaps if the Doctor saw 10.1 doing something like Hurt did, or with Hurt? The Doctor, unable to leave the TARDIS due to the plague, gives Rory the lens, his sonic screwdriver, and a pair of glasses through which the Doctor can see and communicate with Rory. Rory explores the complex, and finds an older and bitter Amy, who has been waiting to be rescued for 36 years while hiding from the Handbots. That's what Auntie and Uncle were for. Nevertheless, The Doctor committed … Upon entering, they immediately found it contained dinosaurs. That certainly doesn't exclude the "death of companions" idea but it does mean there'd have to be more to it than that. there's an image going around that shows the doctor's eyes, and he's clearly looking at the tardis. We only saw a sign on the Door that said "Do not disturb". An extended scene after the Doctor's death at Lake Silencio. Doctor Who Games. The question becomes whether Rose could make John Hurt better before he does what he did? Rated: Fiction K+ - English - Hurt/Comfort - Rory W., 11th Doctor - Words: 620 - Reviews: 3 - Favs: 5 - Published: 9/28/2011 - Status: Complete - id: 7421314 + - Full 3/4 1/2 Expand Tighten A/N: Hihi! Is it because they constantly balance life and death? Amy saw herself waiting for The Doctor as a child. After all, death would be a gift to such an old being, as made clear in the end of the episode. Every room isn't necessarily the person's greatest fear; they always refer to the things in the rooms as "bad dreams." One-shot. Suspect you may be joking but to avoid confusion it shoukld be pointed out that the Doctor didn't know the question at that point so such an occurrence would cause a clash with the close of the series.DCT ☎ 16:00, July 10, 2014 (UTC), Bit late to add to this, and I know the 'chose' the crack for a reveal... but I dont think that's what had been intended originally. DOCTOR: Amy, get back. Doctor Who — Series 6, The God Complex. --2.101.59.118talk to me 09:59, June 6, 2013 (UTC), I think and this is my personal opinion that he sees an older self standing over the bodies of dead companions and him no longer caring or he sacrificed them for the 'bigger picture' because of what i've seen from the ninth and tenth doctor is that the only thing keeping him sane is that he feels guilty of what he did to the Time lords and true fear is when sees himself no longer caring about the lives he takes which I think the John Hurt doctor did losing the right to call himself the doctor as he no longer 'make people better'.abdikko ☎ 23:18 June 27, 2013 (UTC). (The lights flicker. And we at the end of the season that he is cursed to live, when he decides to end the time war. But the Doctor's is the sort of man who prizes knowledge as his greatest weapon. He finds it contains a portal to another world, one covered in snow. The Doctor, at that time did not know the name Trenzalore or that itt was the location of his grave. Requesting that she forget her faith in him, he insists that he really is "just a madman with a box" as he'd told her all those years before, and that it's time to see each other as they really are." I mostly think this because as he leaves, he puts the "Do Not Disturb" sign on the door, which sort of signals something is going on inside he wouldn't want anybody else to see. I have short hair and a shorter attention span. She turns to find him leaving once the children wonder who left them a gift. And then the human race wakes up one morning and discovers the world has been overrun by small cubes, which then proceed to do nothing at all. Rory Gilmore is one of modern pop culture’s OG readers. With Matt Smith, Karen Gillan, Arthur Darvill, Sarah Quintrell. This is the form of himself that could not save people. Doctor Who - Watch on BBC iPlayer. Note how he drops Amy and Rory off back on Earth after this adventure, like he saw the loss of his companions coming. Complete. --89.241.64.101talk to me 03:37, January 29, 2013 (UTC). 87.102.91.126talk to me 23:14, December 25, 2013 (UTC), Was the light in his eye crack-shaped in The God Complex, or was that an edit for the flashback? His tomb, his death. Does shocking heart rhythms back in sync, bringing new life into this world and cracking skulls to remove deadly brain tumors cause their own craniums to arrogantly expand? All rights go to the BBC. Moreover, his reaction implies that it would be easy - so easy - to do, especially if he loses the balance of empathy and compassion that he uses his companions to refresh. Maybe he simply saw the one thing that scares him; the truth that whatever he ever try to do, time will inevitably end all that he loves and holds dear. She was astute, quickly diagnosing a situation based on her observations. But it would be a tacit admission of getting it wrong.DCT ☎ 15:42, September 1, 2014 (UTC), He saw the crack on trenzalore and the timelords inside... Who else. it's just less awkward. Kittieshavethebox . It was one of the last things to disappear after the simulation ended. --89.240.250.172talk to me 18:08, June 3, 2013 (UTC). He always felt like that was his greatest failing he became what he never wanted and he failed to live up to the name of the Doctor. Image of Doctor Who - 6x11 - The God Complex for fan of doctor who 25433445 Title Drop: "That's quite a god complex you have there." There have been many ways to invade the Earth, and the Eleventh Doctor has seen them all – or so he always thought. The God Complex has been listed as one of the Media and drama good articles under the good article criteria. This is for entertainment purposes only. LUCY [OC]: My name is Lucy Hayward, and I'm the last one left. Rory Williams is a fictional character portrayed by Arthur Darvill in the long-running British science fiction television series Doctor Who. A crazy Doctor in a TARDIS. Gallery. All great thoughts - but some of you are losing sight of the "Who else?"